Judge to Britney: Gimme More (of Your Cash)

91. She's worth 100 million....far from broke. She draws $700,000 monthly according to recent court papers. She has a monster hit single with another album coming out in a month. How does this all translate into financial difficulties?

Posted at 9:00PM on Oct 6th 2007 by TMZ reader

92. It's about the ratio of women who have custody and men who have custody. When men have custody the percentage of mothers not paying is greater than men not paying when the mother has custody.

It's just a matter of numbers, that's all, but it is, nonetheless, significant as it shows that more women percentage wise are deadbeats than men. One is about numbers, which is where you're are right, and one is about percentages, which is where I'm right, which, really, makes both of us on the same page. My stance was on the percentages. All things being equal numbers wise and the percentage of deadbeat moms would shoot up, as under the current system.

Yes, there are more men numbers wise who do not have custody, and so the numbers of them being deadbeat is greater, number wise. But when women are the non-custodial parent they rank higher in deadbeats percentage wise, not actual number wise.

The court system has been set up for some decades now to favor mothers regardless of actual parental qualities. Similar to how affirmative action started out right but has now become an albatross to our society and needs some sort of corrections.

Now, really, I think, we are in agreement on all we've been posying, just that we're coming at the issue from two different perspectives. I say that you are coming from the institutionalized system view which puts women/mothers on a pedestal and has institutionalized the Virgin Mother/Saint thing which allows for mothers/women to have been awarded children, properties and monies almost without question for some many decades, even when they're clearly not fit as parents. This was a reaction to previous times when mothers and children did indeed wind up on the short end of the stick.

It was good that things were corrected so as to not make the children and mothers then, who usually did not work, suffer from a divorce. But, as I said ealier, like so many other movements, extremist elements used and misused the media and the legislative outlets to go to far the other way.

Two wrongs don't make a right, is my thinking, and we've gone too far and are going too far in so many different ways these days. From one extreme to the other. From one "29%er" mindset to another. Meanwhile, real equality of the sexes, the races, the ages, what have you, suffers as we suffer along with it.

We've reached a stalemate between the extremists from all sides, who individually make up a small percentage (29%ers), with the majority of us, you and I, being tugged from all sides, demanding and begging that we buy into one or another's line of garbage.

I just don't see why t should be so hard to live a civilized life in a civilized society. If instead of people doing the me-first/I'm-the-one/it's-my-world-and-you're-all-just-living-in-it type mentality, like Britney, Lindsay, Paris and so many others are conducting their lives, if people would use their directionals when turning so as to courtiously alert the person behind they were turning, if people would not yak on the cell phone while driving, if people would...well....ya know, realize they aren't the only person in the world and that they're just another of many, many millions and they have to adhere to the agreed upon rules and laws like others have to then we'd have a better society.

But, when we have people, our politicians, our celebrities, our religious leaders, all flouting the agreed upon rules of society, even the smallest ones, then we wind up where we're at now.

And this all crosses all social, political and religious barriers. As the BushCo and the GOP have proved no one party or group has a lock on morality and what is right.

Posted at 9:22PM on Oct 6th 2007 by RasputinsLiver

93. Whew! Let's see if we can go from the old institutionalized women/mothers on pedestal paradigm to the newer, clearer one.

Let's use part of your last sentence: "bottom line that 1,711,000 more men than women are NOT supporting their children."

Maybe my stance can be made clearer using what you just said there.

Now, why is it that 1,711,000 more men than women are not supporting their children? Are there the same amount of non-custodial moms as dads? No. The courts still award in at least 90% of cases the mother custody. So that makes sense, numbers wise.

If there were the same amount of non-custodial mothers as fathers, an equal 1,711,000, then suddenly you see a very different picture. What the study showed was that percentage wise more mothers are deadbeats than fathers. It showed that more fathers are NOT deadebeats percentage wise than non-custodial mothers. That's blows the myth of the evil father/man out of the water.

In other words, all things being equal, more non-custodial mothers than non-custidial fathers are deadbeats. More non-custodial fathers ARE supporting their chidlren than non-custodial mothers. You see?

However, the real bottom line is that neither sex should be not supporting their children. I had mine purposely and when wanted them. I do believe, however, after my 47 years of living and pondering these things and others, as well as observing others, that most of humanity are here due to accidental pregnancies or because of selfish reasons ala Britney Spears ( born to accessorize one's self image), so there are so many who, probably like Britney, who do not want their offspring and resent paying the money for them.

Given our population in this world and the diminishing resources, why, I'm coming around to the Chinese government's stance on limiting how many children a couple can have. Maybe even who can have them, although I'm not ready to sign onto such an extreme stance as yet by any measure. But something's got to be done to stanch the global problem of too many people, not enough resources and so many not taking responsibility for they and theirs.

How to solve this stuff is something for better brains than mine, however.

Posted at 9:39PM on Oct 6th 2007 by RasputinsLiver

94. My friend, I am through with trying to reason with you.

That last post confirms that you are indeed a mysoginist. "The institutionalized virgin mother/saint etc....." says it all.

I am so disappointed. I thought that you were merely in denial. Please don't teach your children to hate women as you do.

When men can get pregnant then maybe there will be some parity.

Posted at 9:42PM on Oct 6th 2007 by realistic mom

95. Oh for crying out loud. The fact I reference what we all know is true and in place in our society does not make me a mysoginist.

If we take that line of thinking then if I say we are a racist society then that would make me a racist. Not.

Don't shoot the messenger just because you don't like the message. I merely pint out what has been institutionalized and this aspect, how ever one wants to call it, is indeed an institutionalized mechanism of our society for at least the last fifty years.

Still, ok, have it your own way. Stay with that old guard thinking.

Have a good evening.

Posted at 9:49PM on Oct 6th 2007 by RasputinsLiver

96. And for the record, I don't hate women. Not in the least. If you choose to derive that from my posts, then so be it, that's what you want to read into them.

But it isn't true and no matter how many times you want to make me out to be that it still won't be true.

Posted at 9:52PM on Oct 6th 2007 by RasputinsLiver

97. Why the hell would Vanessa be opening up her big mouth about other people staying out of "drama-filled" situations and at the same time, naked pics of herself are being looked at all over the world. She needs to keep her mouth shut and try to fix her own problems...and these days, she got a lot of them...

Posted at 10:59PM on Oct 6th 2007 by bored23

98. When Britney's perfume, Curious, first came out I was given a free sample. I'm a fan of her music but I was stunned at how bad that perfume smelled, it was rank, honestly it's the worst perfume that I personally have ever smelled. I would have been surprised if even the kids liked it.

Posted at 11:00PM on Oct 6th 2007 by Leela

99. Don't get married You will loose half of what you have ....and ban Marriage...

Posted at 12:48PM on Oct 7th 2007 by Dominique

100. Guys, Guys, Guys, Hey, Lets let the Pros do there work now. Lets cut the girl some slack, If you feel you can throw the first rock then do so... Or you can start helping to make this song bird into a healthy,loving, Mother that she can be... Lets drop the bomb on the Monster that keeps dragging her down, Lets take back our lives, lets start living again...

Posted at 5:24AM on Oct 8th 2007 by Kcc Curlee

101. George has said that he doesn't want to get married or have kids, so why should he have to keep explaining himself? George was married for four years to Talia Balsam. He's not a bachelor, he's a divorcee. Maybe that experience is why he doesn't want to get married AGAIN. He can have any woman he wants, so as long as they know going in there isn't going to be paperwork, what's the big deal?

Posted at 2:48PM on Oct 7th 2007 by Katie

102. If she is a human being in trouble it is a shame that [for any person] it has to be with all this attention. I guess that is the price of fame.

Posted at 3:52PM on Oct 7th 2007 by beowolf

103. Wait, don't tell me - Britney has no medical insurance. Now that is stupid.

Posted at 4:27PM on Oct 7th 2007 by Geminate

104. "Running out of money" meaning she might step down one level in a tax bracket. Didn't she recently just offer K-Fed 35 million to drop the custody battle?

BTW, I care nothing about this bitch but for people to call her "fat" is idiotic. Thats a womans body folks. Stop your preoccupation with how women should look like 12 yr old boy before you consider them "in shape".

Posted at 5:19PM on Oct 7th 2007 by Wickedashtray

105. I don't think its fair to compare sending naked pictures of yourself to someone when you were young and stupid to women who repeatedly get in the car drunk, and in some occasions worse, and chase people or drive down the street wrong endangering peoples lives. Even if Vanessa sent naked photos everyday to men she would only be doing herself a disservice. You can't compare that endangering the lives of others. People should quit being so uptight and stop putting young women up on pedastools...they make mistakes too. Get your kids older more accomplished role models or hey be one yourself.

Posted at 12:18AM on Oct 8th 2007 by Jessica